Does it happen often? so far that even animal control officers are brainwashed.the pit bull ATTS scores are an even bigger lie than the nanny dog. Close. All undone with a single article.http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20110602/od_yblog_upshot/pit-bulls-surprising-past-nanny-dogsIf you click on the blog post linked to this article, you will find a hell of a lot of old pictures showing children with friendly pit bulls--I don't know if this means they were called "The Nanny Dog" or not--frankly, sounds like a bit of a sissy name (no kid ever used it, that's for sure), but people unquestionably thought of them as safe companions for children, which is the only point an intelligent person would be considering. We have thousands of Staffs in the UK and very few incidents regarding them. Lets say that BSL was an active law and it was illegal to own a "pit bull type" dog. Please go and do your research properly..interview some people..read REPUTABLE articles/journals/papers..before posting this sh*t. I own an English staffie and here in south Africa they are very much loved and adored...we ban pit bulls here as do many other countries...totally different dog. Does that mean that all of those vintage photos showing kids and dogs didn’t exist? I guess I could buy a book that includes all the AKC registered dogs.... do you know of or recommend one? Except replace the SS with pit bulls and the Jews with children and other people. The various histories and descriptions of the breed largely agree with each other. Five years after the Nanny Dog Myth Revealed was first published, BAD RAP, a major pit bull advocacy group publicly announced that it will no longer support the “Nanny Dog” myth because it … I mean i understand clearing things up, like this whole nanny dog thing...i always thought the real nanny dog was the saint Bernard(thanks to peter pan)Also, is it just apbts you hate or any breed that was bred for fighting? You know your arguments about your friend's pit bull may have contributed to his responsible behavior. I own 2 UKC registered american pit bull terriers. !kevin in ireland.American Children killed by pit bull dogs - 2004Kamryn Billingsley1 month old/Shoreline Park MSDecember 12, 2004Ownership of pit bull not establishedAnnilee McKinnon5 years old/Show Low AZDecember 2004Neighbor’s pit bullMyles Leakes4 years old/Orlando FLDecember 9, 2004Ownership of pit bull not establishedAnton Brown8 years old/Tampa FLOctober 1, 2004Family keeping pit bull for a friendIsaiah Calandis Smith19 months old/Greer SCSeptember 2, 2004Ownership of pit bull not establishedJordan Lee Parker8 months old/Nacogdoches TXJuly 15, 2004Grandmother’s pit bullRoddy Phillip Dumas Jr.8 years old/Charlotte NCApril 14, 2004Family pit bullJohn Doe16 months old/Rouge Park MIApril 5, 2004Grandmother’s pit bull. Labradors? I mean, they do realize that this term grew from different people referring to their own INDIVIDUAL dogs as nanny dogs, right? Are you saying these dogs are not pit bulls? one day you will realize that, until then good luck...your gonna need it. A dog is only as good as it's owner. America was built by pit bulls. But not all owners do. "Because you didn’t come up with proof on your own? The things most people think they know about them are pure stereotype, one that alleges a vicious, aggressive demeanor thanks to their history of use in dog … You people can't comprehend what you're reading can you? Stats & Facts. Yes! It is a lie. "You mentioned that "it's perfectly plausible that a dog could be a pit fighter and still safe for children to be around" so no, I did not twist your words around. I know several people who have perfectly socialized pit bulls. Case closed! If you have more than that, show it.I seem to remember that no one can visually identify a pit bull...Anyhow, it is nice to see nutters are slowly abandoning the patently unfounded myth of the nanny dog and are now pinning their hopes on a bunch of old, unidentified photographs. You seem to have missed the fact that the basis for this blog post is HISTORY. "...it's perfectly plausible that a dog could be a pit fighter and still safe for children to be around. We need to get it up there! If Poodles weren't naturally good at water retrieving, they wouldn't exist. If his first hold doesn't suit, he takes another. "This is the only thing I partially agree with. You want to talk about children? You want to breed for a better pit bull? Not sure which (if any) of the dogs in those photos are Staffies (not many, I suspect). I doubt anyone could provide this. @ msteeleart What does that have to do with the nanny dog myth, nothing! http://andrew-rozsa.blogspot.com/2011/10/are-nanny-dogs-myth.htmlThey do not seem to not want to admit they hold the burden of proof and have not met it.The truth blog is important in removing their linchpin arguments: 1. nanny dogs, 2. a good friend of mine has a 3 year old daughter who loves him to death, he keeps her out of trouble and entertained... you blog out of ignorance and spite you obviously dont know anything about genetics, dogs, or people for that matter. I'm not the one trying to dispel a so called myth while admitting that my research was limited. Anyone saying that Pitbulls are good with children, or saying Pitbulls are bad with children are just generalizing. The first myth they address, the Nanny Dog myth, is widely disseminated by pit bull advocates and pro-pit bull groups. Go to the library, there is plenty of evidence, I found numerous newspaper articles and ads with a simple search. She has been routinely 'attacked' in play by small children from kids at the dog park to nieces and cousins and only wags her tail and kisses them, keeping herself in check not to scratch or knock them over.My evidence is my own experience as, aside from the dog report fatalities (which is where I had the indication that these areas of attack are in the majority of being in the state of poverty), I had little success of pit bull information that wasn't objective either way. Even the stronger Saint Bernard has had fewer unprovoked mauling and no fatalities to my understanding. More than 40 fatal attacks in the past five years alone have been pit bulls. You can't lie about that anymore because if you doubt any assertions made here, you can verify it yourself. But is it or has it ever been safe? You must be democrats. CHILDREN are going to have to fight for their lives in a pit because someone wants money and drugs. They've been saying "its all how you raise them" and then immediately contradicting themselves for a 140 years. If you don't like it leave the USA. Like I said look up The SUPER DOG TITLE by the UKC. plenty of loved and well cared for pit bulls attack. Its their right to kill themselves so long as it doesn't involve anyone else. @lexxI have had many "normal" encounters with pit bulls. Once they were introduced into fighting rings (which is a very important part of the American Akita's developmental period) they were bred with dogs like German Shepards - which are aggressive towards humans. I always wondered if this was true or not...I've been on both sides. You should be able to own whatever dog you want. Even when it has nothing to do with the nanny dog myth? A google timeline search for "America's Nanny Dog" shows the earliest online publication date is September 25, 2007 as an opinion piece in the online publication. Ban stupid people, not breeds! Learn about what they need in order to be happy, healthy dogs and why they got the nickname "nanny dog". I've never "candy coated" any of the stoys about dog attacks. I'll be first to say not everyone should own a pit, and that not all of them are stable due to bad breeding or mishandling but why not gain some true knowledge of these breeds and start preaching responsible ownership rather than maligning the entire breed? you apparently have some personal problem with pit-bulls, maybe you should see someone about that. It's the first step to AKC recognition and the club wanted to polish their dog's image. And most of you lie no matter the cost. The bulldog would be brave to the death of course, and would withstand pain that the terrier would never endure, but that was poor consolation when the terrier had killed the dog. in case it returns, here are few points now that i have had time to re-read the nanny dog blog post, hopefully, it will answer its questions:american pit bull terrier is listed 2 times in this blog.while the staffordshire bull terrier is listed 17 times.also please note the third comment (mine):"the nanny dog myth originated [with] the staffy bull and the american nutters happily adopted it. I stated what the limits of my research were, I didn't say it was limited. They were kept for pets and companions, they gained recognition in dog shows, and became fashionable to own among the undergraduates at Oxford and Cambridge. :D. poor feeble minded pit nutter, i almost feel sorry for you.further evidence that chris is unable to comprehend in his above comment.i said you violated the OBJECTIVE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE criteria, NOT the ON TOPIC criteria.just how fucking stupid are you people? Well, there are a lot of Saint Bernards with kids, were they nanny dogs? But none of them have so far come from the pit bull community. But maybe that's why she changed it. How does that undo all this work? It appears you mean anyone that isn't out to badmouth these dogs with the sole purpose of doing away with them. Her contention that Staffordshire Bull Terriers are OFTEN referred to as nursmaid dogs is a little bit of a stretch, too. All undone with a single article. " I'll publish it. Any post that makes valid points against what you're determined to believe is called off topic. When press is good it's a pit bull, when press is bad "they're different breeds!". The reason people do not worry about those breeds are due to several reasons. GO AWAY AND GROW UP. If the dogs did not fulfill that purpose, THE BREED WOULD NOT EXIST. But breeding has always been an issue.Almost any way a nutter tries to look at it, the point is moot. i suspect it varies. That makes them real time wasters if you ask me! UPDATE 5/21/13: Two years and nine months after the Nanny Dog Myth Revealed was first published, BAD RAP, a major pit bull advocacy group publicly announced that it will no longer support the Nanny Dog myth because it endangers children. All but two sources were written before the internet was widely available, and the most recent one is a book by a SBT lover! Though J.M. German Shepherds, hound, and other terrier dogs have strong prey drives, why aren't they killing and maiming more people than the American Pit Bull, Staffordshre, and Ambull? I feel he shouldn't be judged because of what he is but judged for WHO he is. "http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/Breeds/AmericanPitBullTerrierRevisedNovember12008Secondly, and I'm not saying this is relevant to every attack, almost all of the pit bull attacks in the United States were "pit-mixes" / "pit bull-type dog" or mislabeled by journalists and police officials.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Stateshttp://www.austinhumanesociety.org/sites/default/files/findtheAPBT.jpgI have been a part of a community that helped a woman's dog recover after getting a bullet to the face by police officials who entered her backyard to chase a criminal. i think you'll like it there. 5 dogs are APBT, 1 is STAFF, 1 is AMSTAFF. we have simply proven that the pit bull advocates have no objective, historical references outside of nutter literature and websites. And In England! You better get cracking on your "Pit Bulls Built America" research project, I think you've inspired Craven to do some history telling as well.And I'm sure the "Pit Bulls Built America" thesis will rest on a much more solid foundation than the "famous pit bull owners list" and the "nanny dog" myths. Oh and you clowns sound the silliest spasses in the world. YOUR RESEARCH IS BASED SOLELY ON THE NANNY DOG MYTH!! Just don't let any frankenmauler pop out another ugly spawn. She uses the term "nursemaid dog" three times and significantly says, " He has a great affection for children, having earned the title 'nursemaid dog' many years ago." It really does break my heart when anybody - especially a child - is attacked by one or more of these "nanny dogs." If anyone is having breed confusion it's often people within your community. It is a wonderful example of patient and skillful breeding for an object that is not wholly ignoble. I never trust a person who hates animals and blames them for the error of mankind. A handful of photos. And yes, there are pictures too if you feel you must have them. You seem to be the one eating what the media is feeding you without a wealth real life experience to temper it with. Staffs are not a pit breed, hence the name 'Staffordshire Bull Terrier'. Barrie patterned Nana after his Landseer Newfoundland, Nana has been portrayed by a St. Bernard, and an Old English Sheep Dog in subsequent stage and screen productions. exactly DubV.i have been working on a propaganda blog. It is the foundation of the false distinction between "human aggression" and "dog aggression." Don't go on and rant about how I put it in metaphorically with a weapon. No one should fall so far to either side that something as silly as whether or not they were known as nanny dogs 100 years ago becomes an argument regarding their safety as pets today. We enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”, “The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.”. If Beagles didn't have a great sense of smell, they wouldn't exist. 15 Dog Breeds With Really Bad Reputations - Simply For Dogs thank you! take a look around, you might learn something. :)http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Toddler-Joshua-Mann-From-Brockworth-Mauled-By-Familys-Collie-Dog-Gets-200-Stitches/Article/201009215724722?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Header_0&lid=ARTICLE_15724722_Toddler_Joshua_Mann_From_Brockworth_Mauled_By_Familys_Collie_Dog_Gets_200_Stitches_Ban these too? I f you had a wonderful dog like mine you would be defensive too. i've never owned one. In the UK we have 'Nanny Dogs' and they are Staffordshire Bull Terriers'. See how that works? 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